I use them when riding my 4-wheeler. Originally Posted by Muley Gil. I have a son's Model 10 which had the lanyard installed by NYPD gunsmiths only after he got into Highway and had to qualify on Harleys. Texas Star. The obvious use for a lanyard is to retain the gun if it falls in a boat or from a tree stand in deer hunting, or when climbing a steep mountain.
Someone already mentioned finding the gun in the dark, in your bedding. But the RCMP still wear them on state occasions and the rig does look nice and traditional with the white lanyard. I think they still use the old flap holsters then, too. Do any Canadian members know for sure? Kelly Find all threads started by S.
Kelly Visit S. Kelly photo album. Originally Posted by Charlie Foxtrott. Originally Posted by jkc. Gearhead Jim. Originally Posted by Bob R. US Military Police used to use lanyards all the time, as did the horse cavalry. Interestingly enough the MPs lanyards were attached to a loop on the butt of the 45, the cav guys had lanyards that attached to a loop on the bottom of the magazine.
I guess you could lose the gun but keep the mag! If you remember all the 45 ACP military revolvers had lanyard loops for the same reason, the MPs and the Cavalry. I do not recall any other US troops using the lanyards-anyone else?????? I do know that the British NCOs and Officers who were issued sidearms used lanyards with dress and battle dress uniforms. That usage by the Brits goes way back to at least the 19th century when revolvers were first issued. When I attended the police academy years ago the instructors were down on all Smith and Wesson 9mm's as being unreliable and unsafe.
This was in just a couple years after the Model 59 began wide spread usage in California. At the time some were using the 59 as a spray-o-matic and not concentrating on shot placement. The instructors as a joke presented me with a lanyard with the instructions to use it with my Mdl 59 and in the event it jammed I could turn it into a slungshot and still defend myself.
They ate a bit of crow when I out shot their darling boy in the El Presidente shoot. As a side note I asked my brother was in the Marines about using the lanyard.
He said that he used one in Vietnam during two tours. His first tour was as an M60 gunner and his second as what he called an S-2 Scout. He added that in a couple of close quarters situations it proved worth using because he was able to retrieve his.
The Big D. My organization issued Model 10's with lanyard rings affixed. Yes; lanyards, too. They were primarily for personnel assigned to motorcycle and equine units. Be safe. If your handgun has one, it's mighty convenient to use in the woods to hang your gun around your neck from while your "indisposed" in the Z position? You know, in that place where Bears also do the same thing in? Originally Posted by The Big D.
I actually use the coat hooks in a stall when I am forced to use public facilities. No, not with a lanyard; simply hang my gun on the hook via the trigger guard. Grip ends are heavier than the barrel ends so they hang inverted and one need not touch the trigger. Terms of Service.
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Find all posts by m1gunner. Find all threads started by m1gunner. Visit m1gunner photo album. General » General Discussion. I think a lanyard would be great for sidearm retention. Laynards in the military date back to the horse soldier days. You would fire your sidearms dry, drop them on the laynards, and close to sword range. Why laynards did not migrate to law enforcement, I do not know I am not active duty military, but I do use a pistol with a lanyard for use during WWII reenactments.
The purpose is simple, so you don't loose your gun. I would have lost 20 pistols had I not been using a lanyard as the gun is always catching on something or slips out while crawling etc. I rarely keep it in its holster as it is to slow to bring the weapon to bear that way, so that is a major reason for its use. Police rarely are doing close combat in thick brush, and have holsters. They just have little use for the concept.
A police officer I shoot with told me he witnessed someone with a lanyard-attached sidearm nearly get beaten to death by a BG who got the gun still attached and was swinging it at the officer's head. I don't know whether this was a law-enforcement or military situation, but I'll try to get better details and post them.
Quoted: Police rarely are doing close combat in thick brush, and have holsters. When my guard MP unit went active duty for law enforcement for our long tour in 96 the actives tried to make us wear lanyards. We told them if we did and got hurt because of them we would hurt the actives, if one of us got killed We didn't have to wear them. The cord is just too handy to grab while wrestling around. Plus, it is not long enough to get a good shooting position.
I can't say why all Military use Lanyards, But imagine takeing an Oilplat, boat, heli-rappleing, ect loosing a sidearm is a reality. Even out of a level II retention holster Safariland Phone cords were used with riggers tap for a long time now there seems to be a couple of product market to that do the same thing. It doesn't sound good until you call it a "Tactical Retention Lanyard. Quoted: A police officer I shoot with told me he witnessed someone with a lanyard-attached sidearm nearly get beaten to death by a BG who got the gun still attached and was swinging it at the officer's head.
The lanyards that Marine Force Recon uses are breakaway models that will separate under a certain amount of stress. This saved a Marine's life when a helicopter crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Camp Pendleton and his lanyard got caught while he egressed the sinking bird. Quoted: It doesn't sound good until you call it a "Tactical Retention Lanyard. I've had my ARs and my on boats before and I use a tactical sling on both of them because they are much more secure, basically with my guns if it is going overboard I want to go over with it a floatation device hey, I ain't losing one of my ARs no matter what since I live in Ca.
But none of my handguns that I currently own are suitable for use with a decent lanyard and therefore I WILL NOT risk taking them on a boat simply because that additional insurance isn't there. It's the only reason I regret selling my HK USP, it was likely a pretty suitable little gun for use with a lanyard and would have made a great gun for use around water.
I would think that beat cops don't have them since they would get caught up while hopping fences chasing BG's. Also, what if you and your partner get in a shootout, his gun becomes diabled, but he has the better shot? You'd be fumble fing around trying to get it unhooked.
This might be somewhat unlikely, but you never know. Another question: is the line ususally long enough to allow you to shoot weak-handed if something happens to your strong hand?
Quoted: Quoted: Police rarely are doing close combat in thick brush, and have holsters. Quoted: I would think that beat cops don't have them since they would get caught up while hopping fences chasing BG's. Beat cops don't like lanyards, or sam browne-style cross belts, or suspenders, or anything else that provides an easy handhold including braids and ponytails on saavy female officers because it will get grabbed, and you will get slung around by it like a sack of frigging potatoes.
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